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dhamma (Skt. dharma): (1) event, phenomenon; (2) mental quality; (3) teaching; (4) nibbana

The objective of science is life, and the objective of wisdom is death.

Science says: ‘We must live,’ and seeks the means of prolonging, increasing, facilitating and amplifying life, of making it tolerable and acceptable; wisdom says: ‘We must die,’ and seeks methods that prepare us to die well.

Miguel de Unamuno

El objeto de la ciencia es la vida, y el objeto de la sabiduría es la muerte.

La ciencia dice “hay que vivir”, y busca los medios de prolongar, acrecentar, facilitar, ensanchar y hacer llevadera y grata la vida; la sabiduría dice “hay que morir”, y busca los medios de prepararnos a bien hacerlo.

I heard this in a palliative medicine presentation today and absolutely love it. I find it to be totally life affirming! That is, to die well is to live well.

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Science Is Not About Certainty. Science is about overcoming our own ideas and a continuous challenge of common sense

[I]n some religions, or in some ways of being religious, [there’s] an idea that there should be truth that one can hold and not be questioned. This way of thinking is naturally disturbed by a way of thinking which is based on continuous revision, not of the theories, of even the core ground of the way in which we think.

— Carlo Rovelli in Science Is Not About Certainty: A Philosophy Of Physics, Edge, May 24, 2012

Thank you aminotes. I really appreciate the qualifying language here. There are indeed many religious people who share a commitment to not knowing, uncertainty, doubt, and, in more theological terms, via negativa (see also, various entries in Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy). Too bad the minority, who seem to approach belief in a dogmatic way, shapes what it means to be religious for those who don’t identify as such.

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I think that it’s worth highlighting the remarkable similarity between deGrasse Tyson’s words, ‘We’re in the universe, and the universe is in us,’ and Schleiermacher’s reference to ‘the immediate consciousness of the universal existence of all finite things, in and through the Infinite, and of all temporal things in and through the Eternal.’ Can there be any meaningful doubt as to that they refer to the same fundamental human experience?
Parker Whittle, The God-shaped Hole: Whither Theology?
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But “the New Atheists, it seems, would take a bulldozer to the whole lot.”

There is a process by which we lay down a continuity of thought from the present to the past. This is how we engage texts. We do not, in any sense leave the writings of the past unmolested. Indeed, we fold, spindle, and mutilate them — if necessary — in order to make them relevant and meaningful to contemporary concerns. Science is not the only discipline that has a process for picking and choosing from previous work in the effort to improve our understanding of the present. All branches of philosophy do the same. And in Judaism there is a tradition of Biblical exegesis called midrash, which often reinterprets, synthesizes, and proceeds from tangents in surprising ways. Among liberal Jewish scholars, the reinterpretation can be quite radical and highly metaphoric. This is how they can reconcile often difficult passages of the Bible to modern, rational sensibilities. It offers a path for maintaining a connection with tradition while reinventing it.

Some may argue that a religious system that has been stripped of all supernatural beliefs and superstitions is no longer religious at all. In fact, it is the very supernatural aspect that gives religion its religious character. Without that, it becomes a philosophy; perhaps a better term would be tradition. Now, on my account, that’s not a bad argument — but neither is it a given. There are counterarguments from semantic and well as anthropological views.

Suppose we accept that any religion that discards all supernatural beliefs is no longer a religion, but becomes a tradition. And suppose that a majority of Episcopal congregations in the United States and Canada decide to adopt an entirely naturalistic stance toward the Bible, and the life and teachings of Jesus, and the creeds of the church — while remaining largely unchanged in structure, observance, ritual, and practice. A handful of congregations reject this move and label themselves Episcopal Orthodox. If we now must refer to the mainstream Episcopal Church as the Episcopal Tradition (a change in terminology unlikely to be accepted by the congregants and pastors), what difference does it really make? It would be unreasonable to deny them the customary privileges granted to a religious organization, simply because they decided to take a rational stance. They should retain their tax-exempt status, their pastors should continue to serve as chaplains in the military, officiate at weddings, funerals, rites of passage, etc. And yet, even if we must call it a tradition, it remains a distinctly Christian tradition — in a very meaningful sense — that singles out and engages the teachings and acts of Jesus (barring the miracles), the sacraments, the liturgy, the holidays, rituals, and observances. They remain Christian in all ways but one — they need not check their intellect at the chapel door. To make a point of distinguishing tradition from religion in such a case is to mince words in a semantic parlor game.

—Parker Whittle, The God-shaped Hole: Whither Theology?

This article is really long but it is an extremely thoughtful account from a self-identified atheist on why perhaps it’s worth taking another look on what it means to be religious.

Source: bootstrapmonkey.com

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[…] I shall call it cosmic religious feeling. It is very difficult to elucidate this feeling to anyone who is entirely without it, especially as there is no anthropomorphic conception of God corresponding to it. […]

The religious geniuses of all ages have been distinguished by this kind of religious feeling, which knows no dogma and no God conceived in man’s image; so that there can be no church whose central teachings are based on it. Hence it is precisely among the heretics of every age that we find men who were filled with this highest kind of religious feeling and were in many cases regarded by their contemporaries as atheists, sometimes also as saints.

How can cosmic religious feeling be communicated from one person to another, if it can give rise to no definite notion of a God and no theology? In my view, it is the most important function of art and science to awaken this feeling and keep it alive in those who are receptive to it.

Albert Einstein, Religion and Science, New York Times Magazine, November 9, 1930

See also, Paul Tillich’s response to Einstein’s critique of a personal God.

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